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The ants farming the aphids on my grapes seem to have set up a permanent residence. Should I get rid of them somehow?

I don't see much use for renting them space. I thought they would get rid of the aphids and leave - but it is a no-go.

BTW, what is the best way to get rid of them? I think they have made tunnels in the dirt under the grape plant to boot!
 
Posts: 835 | Location: NE US | Registered: February 11, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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They are aerating the soil, eating the aphids and transporting lots of organic material underground. You're not renting to them, they are doing unpaid labor for you.

Ants are basically predators, their presence indicates that there is prey for them.


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As ctdahle has already stated there is no good reason to "get rid" of ants. One of the things organic gardeners need to do is really understand insects and what their purpose in the envrionment is and ants are a major part of Ma Natures recycling machine.
Ants do "herd" those Aphids, by taking them down into the nest where the Aphids are fed to the workers in the nest. Because many people do not grasp that Aphids reproduce prolifically and there are ever more Aphids to replace those the ants removed they think the ants put them on the plant, not so.


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I guess you could always use a strong stream of water to try to wash off some of those aphids.

I did always think that the ants made more aphids too.....maybe it is also because they scare off other aphid predators...not just because the aphids are reproducing like mad. That would make a great science paper! Smiler


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Posts: 1805 | Location: Alaska | Registered: January 22, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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On a newly transplanted tree aphids can make a tree lok stressed. If you want to reduce their numbers, use a strong spray of plain old water from your garden hose on the leaves. Do it daily till damage and aphid populations are reduced.

No this will not totally eliminate their population. No they will be back next year. In the passage of time (in the example of new transplants) your root system will get bigger and this whole aphid-ant thing will become less stressful to your tree.

If this is a fruiting tree I'd like you to look at a dormant oil spray for next spring application. There ARE orgaic versions available.

Scale insects are another common pest on fruit trees.
 
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Thanks.

It looked like the ants and aphids were just staying put on certain leaves. And the leaves were stressed. That was why I thought what are they doing for me?
 
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