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Hi! New to this post. Also im a new gardener. :^O Just wondering, I heard that fish fertilizer was really good for roses. Supposibly fish fertilizer makes them grow more healthier, and it gives you alot of blooms. Theres this house that has the most beautiful roses i had ever seen. The bush is really tall filled with alot of roses. Hopefully mine will look like those someday. Also is zone 8 really good for roses? I really appreciated if you answers my questions. Thanks.
 
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Fish emulsion fertilizer is an excellent choice for feeding roses if your compost is scarce.
Fertilizers, organic and non, have a series of three numbers on their labels. Example 5-7-7
The first number, (5) refers to the available nitrogen in the fertilizer. Nitrogen makes for lush green leaves. The second number is referring to potash. Potash is needed for root development, which any plant should need. The third number is potassium, which helps develop flowers, and fruit/seed. I may have the potassium and potash in reverse order, but it is close enough to answer your question.
So for flowers on a rose, the 2nd and 3rd numbers should be higher than the nitrogen supplied in the fertilizer.

Compost provides the best source of these 'macro' nutrients, but also supplies trace 'micro' nutrients, like minerals. It should be your first choice for any plant. It feeds your soil, which in turn feeds your plants, where a boughten fertilizer has limitations because of the source of the mix.
But, fertilizers have their place, for sure. Compost is the best, but in my books, there is never enough of it to go around, especially when one is starting from scratch, either as a new gardener or at a new garden. One sometimes needs a stop-gap measure to 'hold the fort' until compost can get made.
Organic fertilizers do a much better good at supplying the trace nutrients that are so valuable and necessary while you are waiting for compost.

Roses are the kings of the flower world. There are many types of them, Species; Rugosas/Shrubs; Floribundas, Grandifloras; Millifloras; Hybrid Teas. Some grow with minimal attention, others require the gardener to assist greatly.It is the man-created roses that are the most particular about growing conditions, and the most difficult to grow to perfection. It is vital to know all you can about the type of rose you are growing, and there are many good books out there to show you around the group ("DK" series of gardening books are great for a starter - lots of photographs. "Taylor's Guide" is also a good reference). It is important to know what you are growing, as different kinds need different conditions. Even within a group there are varieties that differ.
I assume the roses you admire are hybrid teas - just as this class are what people automatically picture in their heads when the word rose is spoken. Living in zone 8 will negate any overwintering problems - these types need much protection to survive a frozen winter. But your troubles are going to be dealing with is heat and humidity, and the continuous feeding and anti-pest treatments.
Organic roses are quite possible. I smile when I type this, because roses are one of those plants that most think chemicals are the only way to grow. It requires creative thinking, time, and research. By choosing roses as your first project, you are pitting yourself against one of the most difficult plants, but ultimately the highest reward.
Don't overlook the rugosas or shrubs. They require less help from you, and most are highly scented and you can find double-flowering forms.
Again, I really recommend you find one of the books I mentioned. Look through this site for more growing information and organic interventions.
 
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Hi, and welcome!

And...where exactly are you? No not your street address or even necessarily the town you live in--not always safe to give out such info on the internet. Which state, and maybe what part of the state (TX for example, has desert, plains, mountains, hill country and river bottoms--each with different growing conditions).

Zones just give you an idea of the temperature range you can expect. There's a lot more involved. DH (Dear Hubby) is from Georgia and I grew up in TX--parts of both are zone 8 but vastly different. GA has slightly acidic soil/Waco TX was alkaline; GA had soil rich in organic matter/Waco had shallow poor soil and 6 months dry spell every year. Some things grow well in one area, but not the other.

Roses will grow in fairly well in zone 8 in both GA and TX--but what they need you to give them in order to do well depends on what's already there for them in the soil. Too much of any one thing can be worse than too little--overfertilizing can kill plants.

You can do a soil test to see how your soil is and what it might need.

Good luck!


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I posted a really long answer to this, and now I can't see it!
Can the rest of you see my post?
 
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No, I can't see it loan... Frowner
 
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I can see it now, today! Is it visible to the rest of you?
 
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It is there & thanks. My roses needed that info.
 
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