I saw a documentary about genetically modified crops and found out how scary these GMO seeds are. Apparently, even after they are consumed, they bind with the DNA in the intestine, release their inherited pesticide, and keep replicating within the body. Horrifying. The main crops are corn, soybeans (90% of soy is GMO), canola and Hawaiian papaya. I think sugar beets are slated to be next, and potatoes are as well. They even have what are called 'terminator' seeds that can contaminate organic plants and kill them (forever). There's a great website that has lots of info on GMO at Seeds of Deception

Anyway, does anyone know of some good sources of organic (non-GMO)seeds that don't cost a ton of money? A Google search brings up some possibilities, but I wanted to check with the forum members for recommendations first. I'm looking for veggies and edible flowers. Heritage and extra strong varieties would be good as well. Thanks. FFYY

Baker's Creek Heirloom Seeds, www.rareseeds.com is a good place to start but there are many good seed companies that refuse to sell genetically modified seed. Look for the Safe Seed Pledge in catalogs or on the companies website.
Here is more reading about GMO's at this site:
http://www.opednews.com/articl...-Cole-081215-45.html

Check out the seed swap section right here on the OG forums. I also sell organic seeds via ebay and localharvest.com . Those are also good places to check.

Well, I hope this will be helpfull, There is a site Greyduckgarlic.com wich sells organic seed garlic as thier main product but they also sell these victory garden packs wich have 26 different types of vegitable seeds for 15.00 so it works out to about 50 cents a seed packet wich is a good deal! and a smaller kitchen garden seed pack with I think 13 types of seed for 10.00 (about 70 cents a packet)still a good deal. Thier garden seeds are open pollination non-hybrid wich is good, but not organic ...for me the way I figured it if you grow the seeds organically it should be ok as the seeds are so small I dont think there could be much of anything on them. Not perfect but it works for me. My organic home garden looks great and the seeds I planted from them grew well.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by goatgardener:
Thier garden seeds are open pollination non-hybrid wich is good, but not organic ...for me the way I figured it if you grow the seeds organically it should be ok as the seeds are so small I dont think there could be much of anything on them.QUOTE]

LOL!!! Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. The size of the seed has absolutely no bearing whatsoever as to whether or not it's organic or whether or not there's "anything on them". You need to do some serious research on what "organic" means.

FFYY,

Yes, there are many many
different ways to obtain
organic/heirlooms seeds.

I like the way
our "first lady"
is setting up her
"friendly competitions"
among her neighborhood kids.

LOL,
bill in socal

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Anyway, does anyone know of some good sources of organic (non-GMO)seeds ...

Though many seed companies have signed the "Safe Seed Pledge," it is kind of meaningless for home gardeners since seed companies will not sell GMO seeds except to commercial growers, and as far as I know, they are required to sign a licensing agreement stating that they will honor the patent rights of the Frankenseed producer.

I am not aware of any home gardener that has had to sign such an agreement to get a packet of tomato seed.

Wayne

You might try http://www.wintersown.org/ for tomatoes, and most of the big seed companies now have organic seed (and sometimes plants) in their online catalogs. I know that Parks, and Burpee do, Johnnies selected seeds, Southern Seed Exchange, and lots of others. If you Google (or Bing) "organic seed suppliers" you'll get a TON of places to shop from.

Awesome Vendors

http://www.reimerseeds.com/peppers-hot_623.aspx
http://www.richters.com/
http://companionplants.com/catalog/index.php
http://homeharvest.com/propaga...latsdomesinserts.htm
http://www.groworganic.com/def...ome=T&theses=3926542
http://www.ghorganics.com/
http://www.scdworld.net/
http://www.arizonapottery.com/item.asp?iid=1677
http://www.newhopeseed.com/
http://www.loveleafgarden.com/...c8a35cb17d8167ddefa8
http://gaianbotanicals.ecrater.com/
http://www.maya-ethnobotanicals.com/
http://botanicalpreservationcorps.com/
http://www.ktbotanicals.com/
http://www.rootworkherbs.com/

The main producers have dropped production of most GMO seed as not cost effective. GMO seed is mostly corn, soybeans and rice, not a worry for the home gardener.

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even after they are consumed, they bind with the DNA in the intestine, release their inherited pesticide, and keep replicating within the body

Something sounds wrong with that information. It is very hard to get foreign DNA into cells where it can replicate. In addition, the DNA is broken down by the digestive process. If it was true of these plants, it would be true of all the other stuff we ate and our DNA would be really gummed up.

The plants may be programed to produce natural pesticide (like pyrethrum) so that eating them would be the same as eating plants sprayed with the pesticide. A lot of the plants are not bred to produce pesticide, but to be immune to herbicide, so farmers can spray the weeds without harming the plants.

Some GMO crops are made by introducing a gene to increase the amount of protein the plant's seed contains (rice for example). The gene added is from another rice plant.

Termiator genes keep the plant from reproducing. The seeds are basically sterile, so the farmer has to buy new seeds every year. If these plants cross with nearby crops of the same type, many of those seeds may also be sterile, however, a big headache for those who save their seed.

I think more would be accomplished if informaton sites would stick with the real problems and not try to scare everyone with non-sense. It gives companies an opening to write off all complaints as from far out crazies and then it is hard to solve the real problems. (See "The little boy who cried wolf" in your nearest Aesops Fables)

well done