Thanks gardenz but where does that leave us Californi-ites. Mike was great & gave me some chuckles plus a lot of real information.

gardenz,

Forget it!

I have a current subscription to Horticulture but won't be renewing when it expires.
I had to laugh at your description and I can tell you that nothing has changed. It's still written primarily for "Mrs. Astor".

Gardenz, I just signed up for PPP/NE.
The web site looks interesting.
One of the authors of an article is a local garden writer.
Thanks

My sister gave me a subscription to "Horticulture" Magazine for my birthday. I don't mind looking at the fancier gardens and dreaming. They have some useful information, too, such as rules that can be broken, for example,mixing different plant heights instead of putting the tall plants in the back of the border and the short ones in the front.I also get OG and National Home Garden Club Magazine (heavy on the non-organic stuff). You can glean the good info and ignore the rest.

My question is, why does the magazine get smaller & also have more ads.

Reiman Publications puts outs 11 different magazines on high gloss paper for a good subscription prices with no ad in them at all. They have lots of articles & great pictures. Some of these magazines are:

Backyard living
taste of home
birds & blooms
country
farm & ranch
& more


We get subscribe to several of these and are very happy with them.

maybe o.g. should learn from them.

Y'know it's a mystery to me why the editor's don't seem to "get it" when so many of us have said it again and again. I tried a subscription to both OG and OS for a while but I just didn't feel that OS magazine fit my OG lifestyle so I let it expire. I have faithfully kept my OG subscription even though I no longer care for it, out of loyalty to the cause and history of OG. I think Robert and J.I. Rodale would be appalled to see what a skinny sham their crusade magazine has become. Why on earth during a booming time in the organics industry and with public interest so high would the keynote magazine on organics drop the ball so thoroughly and get so wish washy and empty? I have tried collecting older issues of OG in order to fill the void, but found it only hightened my disappointment in the modern incarnation. The Rodale Institiute is doing good work, and right there in urrounding PA there is a ton of exciting organic innovation going on, and yet we see nothing in the magazine. All over teh country and teh world, people are coming up with exciting organic solutions to problems like famine and GMOs and corporate global dominance of the seed and food supply and other topics of import to organic gardeners and we still see virtually nothing in the magazine. Come on OG ! I know you must be reading this message board! quit treating us like mindless consumers and educate us like your forefathers did! We obviously want that, and not the drivel you have decided we want. You can even keep the drivel and add some meaty content. What will happen if all your intelligent readers discover Acre's USA magazine and Countryside and PPP and the other magazines who are stepping up to fill in the gap?

what is PPP?

PPP is People,Places,Plants magazine. Ed. Mike McGrath
Many here subscribe. There is a northern gardener and a southern edition.

Where can I check out the southern one?

I agree that the OG now is but a meer shadow of its predicessor, but it still is better than nothing I suppose. I have taken to passing along old issues to people interested in organic gardening. They find it most informative.

I know WHY the split the mag into OG and Organic Style: too many people were complaining that there was too much other stuff that organic gardening in OG, too much soap-boxing and "watchdogging" that some saw as not as important. I always found articles about how recycling (glass, paper, plastic, etc.) could bring life to new products that closed the recycling loop by making things from recycled material. I found the watchdogging that so many complained about to be most informative and caught many an executive off guard when asking point blank questions. I say that knowledge is power, but some prefer not to know......

I presonally loved the zone calendars in each issue that told you what to plant when in your zone. I miss them terribly (HINT HINT OG EDITORS!!!)

No, it wasn't totally devoted to organic gardening, but it added a little diversity and made me think, gave me information and opened my eyes to new things. Don't you all think there is so much more to being organic than NOT using chemicals? Maybe I'm alone in this, who knows.

But, the only way to change this for the better is to have our voice heard. What it was isn't coming back, what it is isn't what we hoped, maybe there is something in the middle?

WandaK,

Scroll up this thread to my post on "People, Places & Plants" magazine.

The northern edition covers all New England states.

The other edition ONLY covers the Mid-Atlantic region: New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Virginia. It doesn't go any further south than Virginia. I believe you said you were in Florida? So, your state isn't included in the Mid-Atlantic Edition.

gardenz

I checked PPP online for the southwest & they said 'not yet'. I am hanging onto that yet part.

Do you guys remember Organic Gardening and Farming. Now that was a good magazine.

Showin' your age daddysbrats. And, I guess, so am I! Nope, sure ain't the same.

Hi all I myself am new here but am useing my wifes name on here and I have every Organic Gardening magazine all the way back to 91 I believe, its a disgrace to see how it has changed and we to have dropped our subscription. Like many in here said, this message board is the best there is and if someone dose'nt have a answer to a question give it time and for sure you'll get one I say also they can keep there shiny painted books Paint jobs are for vehicles ect ect hey? Like they say "Keep Coming Back Here,It Works" have a good day!!!
Dave