My netting system? What did I say that I forgot? lol

Dave

Oh Dave.. I meant I needed to read more of your info and consider how to set up my own system. Given that the darn SVB is attacking my cucumbers as well as my squash.. I'm going to have to try to do something.

Let me report that I planted the yellow mustard seeds from the package of yellow mustard seeds I bought for cooking.. They came up! That package of mustard seed that was old also came up... All of it! So I'm looking forward to harvesting fresh mustard greens and then the seeds.

I made some pickles using seeds from my yard and it turned out really nice. I plan to make more, perhaps adding more fennel to create a pickle that is my own concoction. There is time to plant cilantro, dill, and mustard to harvest seeds. It's early in znoe 6. I have actually planted cilantro around Labor Day and had seeds from the stuff.

Rabbit,

I was thinking of you while in an Indian grocery store yesterday...while looking at a 4 lb bag of black mustard seeds!!!! How long would it take up to use those?

You must have meant the fabric I put up for the pepper maggots. It won't work for SVB, in my experience. They are in the ground, and come up under any row cover.

When I get home today I am making some escabeche, using many of those peppers I harvested, plus some of my lime leaves as a different flavor...I'll let you know how it turns out.

Dave

Okay.. I agree with you... those darn SVB.s come up everywhere. Heck.. I need to learn about what the eggs look like. THe darn things even borred into the squash I had brought in to the house. THe Squash I had harvested, but didn't wash... had the darn borers drilling into the squash I had picked! I killed about 4 SVB's! These things are a BANE on me.

Is is my imaginication.. or is there very little one can do.. but resort to pesticides? I won't do Sever Dust.. But what about Pytheriumums? Sp? I wish I had a pet that could do to the SVBs what my cats have done to the ground moles!

Even pesticides don't work...at least the kind we use, as they just kill now, and not much later, and these things fly in tomorrow or the next day (and the next day...) and lay eggs, which hatch quickly, and burrow in. Companion planting, or spraying with Surround, as I did these last two summers, may delay it, but eventually, one will get through, and all it takes is one...

Simply put, if they are in your area, you are stuck. Plant resistance is all that works. I am wondering if there is some native plant that this species infests, as with the pepper maggot fly, that makes it ever-present in some areas, and ready to instantly infest every plant.

Dave

From what I am learning every week.. at the Farmers market and through the Master Gardeners resources.. The darn SVB's may be my own personal hell. I may have to go off of the Organic trend for at least a summer of two.

The Darn SVBs have been so bad that they have drilled into my cabbage, tomatoes and peppers! Now that means war!!

Back to my Pickler thing..I planted mustard seed from a black mustard seed package.. and I planted Yeeeeellow mustard seed from the seed
had purchased at the co op. All of those seeds came up. The mustard is shooting to bloom/seed as we are having a dry August..

I plan on harvesting those seeds.. or letting them "Go to Seed" to come up next spring.

Well...to you pickler's out there.. It hit me
that a lot of the dill pickle recipes call for spices/herbs we can grow in our yards.. things like garlic, onions, dill, horseradish,mustard seed.. then with sweet pickles,, we can grow fenel, corainder,bay leaves, mustard seed, then several Italian herbs.


Isn't gardening wonderful???