name I enjoyed your points but gmo's are here to stay since banning and preventing there gene spread is not possible except by the current federal regs which gover there sale, use and testing.

>>>James some people are not smart enough to know difference and like to scaremonger others.<<<

Firstly, I was not scaremongering, I was expressing a preference not to have the stuff in my yard, as in it is an unwanted weed. Needmorespace gave a decent overview. Didn't sound like Chicken Little to me.

If you'd care to read more:
http://100777.com/node/1588
http://www.psrast.org/btkillssheep.htm
http://gebloggtewelten.wordpress.com/2006/06/17/die-zeit-danach/
http://www.genewatch.org/sub.shtml?als[cid]=530853

Sorry to take this sunflower thread far 'afield', so to speak. But, thanks for the link to MEN and Wayne's ..er...boldfaced, dastardly "lie" about his bed construction. Wayne's posts on that thread were (as usual) very informative and helpful.

If just one of the multiple personalities who posted this link had the capacity to recognize the facetious nature of Wayne's comment under his last photo on that MEN thread, they would understand that "one supportive plank - to prevent run off - does not a wood-framed, raised bed make". Duh.

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Originally posted by gridgardener:
http://www.motherearthforums.com/MENForum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10370
"(The second photo does show a plank on the side of the path where some of the normal road runoff flows through the garden in a heavy rain. So I guess I lied a little, I do use framed sides.)

Wayne"

Too freaking funny. Yeah folks, in my post (on a completely different website) about how the mounded raised beds in my garden survived a flood, I showed where the sides of a single path were sided with wood, forming a sort of permanent sluice where runoff from the road was diverted through the garden. So as I said, "I lied a little" when I said I don't use permanent sides on my raised beds. I can see I have to be more careful in choosing my words. (Not on a bet.)

This is a good example of how someone with nothing to offer can take a line out of context for the sole purpose of insulting someone. I am unaccustomed to being called a liar by the likes of this and not having the forum administrators do something about it. Another complaint has been recorded.

Wayne

Oh, the bunny is Oolong, and the photograph is by the Japanese photographer Hironori Akutagawa. I don't know how the tagline originated but I find it handy for dealing with those of a confused nature.

Oolong was Akutagawa's pet rabbit and had a talent for balancing things on his head. (And had seemingly infinite patience while being photographed doing so.)

Here's a bit (in English) about Oolong, who has since passed on to that great rabbit warren in the sky since this was written:
http://sokaisha.hp.infoseek.co.jp/010817/010817.htm

This is the link to the "official" Oolong website. It is in Japanese for those fortunate enough to know the language, but the photos can be appreciated in all languages:
http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~sokaisha/rabbit/rabbit.htm

Wayne

Added:
needmorespace, sorry your thread is hijackjed. I'm sure you appreciate being called stupid by that entity even less than I enjoy being called a liar.

Linda, thanks for the kind words.

You could always try to run stuff you want to read off the official Oolong site through the babelfish translator. I love that thing!

The problem with Genetically modified organicisms is that we do not know what they might do to us, because there never was any kind of testing done on these things. The manufacturers of these GMO products convinced the USDA and the FDA that inserting a gene that would never get into a plant otherwise, artifically, by splicing that gene into the plants DNA, is the same as what plants have been doing for eons, hybridizing, pollinating each other. This is just another way to do that, so there was no testing to determine what, it any, adverse affects there might be. Ther are some studies that indicate a potential problem, but each time a study looked like it would show a problem with some GMO food, the major companies have threatened law suits and that has had the affect of stifeling research.
Your only wat to combat this is to find Organcially grown food and buy that, although because some of the pollen from GMO corn escaped and pollintated much of the corn seed stock, including species in Mexico, it is becoming more difficult to find non GMO food. More and more evidence is accumulating that the GMO products are contaminating non GMO products. A GMO species of grass has contaminated other strains of the same species. 90 percent of the soybeans grown in the USA are GMO. A very large percentage of the corn grown in the USA is GMO. These products cannot be sold in Europe or Japan without proper labeling, a choice we do not have in the USA.

Very nice bunny pic!
I hope rabbit sees it!

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Originally posted by adirondackgardener:

I have nothing useful to contribute to this discussion. Just wanted to say I enjoyed seeing the bunny (I have seen it before, in a post on the cat site I visit ). --J--