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I sprouted some basil about 5 to 6 weeks ago inside and it must not have had good light since it never got bigger than two little leaves. I put it out in the sun this week and still nothing.

Did I ruin it with so many weeks of poor light?

Only other thing is it was grown in 99 cent Hyponex from Walmart and my hosue was in the low 60's for temp for that time.

Will it get better or should I trash it and start over?
 
Posts: 835 | Location: NE US | Registered: February 11, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Have you fed them at all? If not, try some fish emulsion. There are 2 versions, one has P and K besides the regular one that is mainly N as in nitrogen. Are they under lights?


Muddy knees David! Compost is my friend. Every day I enroll in gardening school. Some days it feels like kindergarten!
 
Posts: 3746 | Location: Oregon-zone 8 | Registered: August 17, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I would rather believe the planting medium is at fault than the light. Cool temps will slow growth too.

If they were growing in low light and you put them out in the sun, this sometimes shocks them and they turn yellow and could die, or at the least be set back for a time.

You have nothing to lose by letting them go for a while, but if you still have some seed, plant a few more using a different seed starter, and more light and see what happens.



Plant a little seed...........
 
Posts: 828 | Location: N. Utah Zone 4/5 Elev. 5000' | Registered: April 02, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I planted some basil seed on march 2 and today 5wks later they are little things with just two leaves. They look really healthy so I think it's just fine. They're under flo. lights and warm. I will plant them out in the garden in perhaps 3-4 weeks when I see some more growth and things are a bit warmer. It seems fine to me. I haven't fed them but I upgraded their peat pots to "buffalo dung" pots and so far so good I think.
 
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Originally posted by oh2fly:
Have you fed them at all? If not, try some fish emulsion. There are 2 versions, one has P and K besides the regular one that is mainly N as in nitrogen. Are they under lights?


Tried fish emulsion once, about a month ago. They were near a window getting indirect light. Do not have any grow lights. What did the old timers use if they did not have lights?
 
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I wasn't going to post a reply because I would like to quit gardening but I can't. I have had problems for the last 3 years germinating seeds to the point where I had to buy plants last year. I have tried clean soiless potting mixture, new seeds, clean new containers, sterlized everything and to this day I can not figure out why I can't germinate silly seeds. I have the clear dome, heating pads, controlled temps the works!! I am at my wits end and to think for 30 years I never had a problem then all of a sudden...BAM....it's like God said "Ummmmmmmm nah....I don't think so Johnny Boy" Even marigolds won't germinate...sigh....and I just tilled the garden today to tops things off. Oh well...be thankfull for what you have because you never ever know what tomorrow will bring.

John from SE CT
 
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I have all of my many seedlings just on the windowsills.

It has been very interesting to see how they are doing.

The basil is one of the worst off...they obviously could do with more light. Even the tomatoes are not as leggy as the basil.

My sunflowers, calendula, allisum, chives, mint, and onions look perfect. So lower light obviously is fine for them.

I do think that my low house temps are making it hard for some of the seedlings (the zinnias for example, still look just awful). But then again, I have heard that if you have low light, it is best to have low temps too, that it reduces some of the legginess. Since both the low light and the low temps reduce growth.


Alaskan
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I think you folks just reminded me of why my basil has been so slow to germinate... BASIL needs HEAT! Like 75+ That is probably why my little pot hasn't germinated. When I was in the "Herb Society".. the rule of germinating was to sit pots with seeds on top of the refridgerator so the heat from the unit would heat up the pot's soil... Now I remember... It's amazing what "nursing" took away from my mind.

Basil likes 2 things... heat and sun... Don't deprive it of either... unless you are just germinating it.. then it can do without sun until it sprouts! Heck, the darn stuff is the only thing to thrive (as long as it gets water) during 100+ days around here. But don't let basil dry out... or poof... it evaporates!
 
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I will make another comment... I find that I get the best adult plants when I start seeds in my own garden soil. It ain't sterile.. but it's what the seedling is going to know for the rest of it's life... so if it can come up in it... it can grow in it! I started everything I have in soil from my lasagna beds.. there is nothing less sterile than that stuff!!! Lots of spores and stuff... I could almost grow mushrooms in that lasagna/composting stuff.
 
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thanks wasrabbity...

helps explain my very sad looking basil. It did germinate OK, but it most definitely looks sad.

So my low light and low heat are very bad for basil, huh. I think the same must be said for some of the others (like my zinnias).

I do find it interesting that my tomatoes, though a little leggy, really aren't that bad.


Alaskan
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(*SPRING* avatar...Spring scheduled for May 7th)
 
Posts: 1809 | Location: Alaska | Registered: January 22, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by allenwrench:
Do not have any grow lights. What did the old timers use if they did not have lights?
Outdoor hot frames fired by solar power and rotting horse manure (which they buried under the growing area to heat it), greenhouses, and glass cloches (very labor intensive, so I hear). I'm sure other things were also used. That's just what I know about.

The cheapest shop lights I found this season were $8.99 at Ace Hardware. Easier and less costly than maintaining a horse. You could always ask for donations at a riding stable, I guess. Me, I'd rather get the shop light.


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Originally posted by Hammer:
I wasn't going to post a reply because I would like to quit gardening but I can't. I have had problems for the last 3 years germinating seeds to the point where I had to buy plants last year. I have tried clean soiless potting mixture, new seeds, clean new containers, sterlized everything and to this day I can not figure out why I can't germinate silly seeds. I have the clear dome, heating pads, controlled temps the works!! I am at my wits end and to think for 30 years I never had a problem then all of a sudden...BAM....it's like God said "Ummmmmmmm nah....I don't think so Johnny Boy" Even marigolds won't germinate...sigh....and I just tilled the garden today to tops things off. Oh well...be thankfull for what you have because you never ever know what tomorrow will bring.

John from SE CT



You sound like you got it worse than me. Did things pick up for you John?
 
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Originally posted by alaskan:
I have all of my many seedlings just on the windowsills.

It has been very interesting to see how they are doing.

The basil is one of the worst off...they obviously could do with more light. Even the tomatoes are not as leggy as the basil.

My sunflowers, calendula, allisum, chives, mint, and onions look perfect. So lower light obviously is fine for them.

I do think that my low house temps are making it hard for some of the seedlings (the zinnias for example, still look just awful). But then again, I have heard that if you have low light, it is best to have low temps too, that it reduces some of the legginess. Since both the low light and the low temps reduce growth.



Basil seems to be a problem with many people. How do they grow it commercially so big? Is it pumped full of chemicals?
 
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